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Sir Walter Scott and Thomas Moore

Kath Hardie

Thursday 11th February 2010

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Summary of the Talk:

Kath Hardie’s talk explored the lives, careers, and legacies of Sir Walter Scott and Thomas Moore, two literary giants of the early 19th century. Despite their vastly different backgrounds—Scott from a well-off Edinburgh family and Moore from a modest Dublin household—their careers intertwined, and they both left lasting cultural legacies.


1. Early Lives & Education

  • Walter Scott (b. 1771) came from an educated Scottish family and attended Edinburgh University at 12, where he developed an early passion for ballads and history. By the 1790s, he was an advocate, collector of ballads, and a newlywed.
  • Thomas Moore (b. 1779) was the son of a Dublin grocer. His ambitious mother ensured he was well-educated, and he entered Trinity College at 16, where he associated with Irish nationalists. However, unlike his peers, he was no soldier and pursued literature instead.

2. Literary Careers & Achievements

  • Scott became famous as a collector and editor of Scottish ballads, publishing Minstrelsy of the Scottish Borders (1802-1803). His own poetry gained fame with The Lay of the Last Minstrel (1805) and Marmion (1808), but the rise of Lord Byron led him to shift to novel writing, starting with Waverley (1814), marking the beginning of the historical novel genre.
  • Moore initially gained fame for his translations of Anacreon’s Odes (Greek poetry on wine, women, and song). He became known as Ireland’s unofficial poet-laureate due to his Irish Melodies (1808-1834), including classics like The Minstrel Boy and The Last Rose of Summer. His Lalla Rookh (1817), an Oriental romance, was a literary sensation.

3. Personal Struggles & Reputation

  • Scott became the leading literary figure of his time, built Abbotsford House, and played a key role in reviving Scottish cultural identity, particularly through the royal visit of George IV in 1822.
  • Moore, despite his literary success, suffered financial trouble due to a dishonest deputy in Bermuda, leading him to flee to the Continent. He later burned Lord Byron’s memoirs under pressure from Byron’s family and associates, a decision he regretted.

4. Friendship & Mutual Respect

Despite Moore’s earlier satirical digs at Scott in his writing, the two men met and became close friends. Their shared love of folk traditions and mutual admiration led to a warm friendship, as seen in Moore’s 1825 visit to Scott at Abbotsford, where he entertained Scott’s family with music.

Moore was deeply moved by Scott’s financial struggles and wrote sympathetically about him, contrasting with those who gloated over Scott’s misfortune.

5. Decline & Legacy

  • Scott, facing financial ruin, worked tirelessly to pay off debts, worsening his health. By 1830, when Moore visited him for the last time, Scott was in poor health, barely able to converse. He died in 1832.
  • Moore, who outlived all his children, spent his final years in grief, fading into obscurity. Today, he is remembered primarily for his lyrical Irish songs.


Interesting Points & Observations

  1. Cross-Dressing at Balls – Moore attended a grand ball where the Duke of Hamilton dressed as a young lady, and the Duke of Clarence as an old woman!
  2. Byron’s Influence – Moore and Scott both admired Byron, but Moore burned Byron’s memoirs, a controversial act.
  3. Scott's National Impact – Scott essentially revived Scottish cultural traditions, including the popularity of kilts after George IV’s visit.
  4. The Theatre Ovation (1825) – In Edinburgh, Moore and Scott were cheered by a theatre audience as symbols of their nations, Scotland and Ireland.


Final Thought

While Scott’s historical novels reshaped British literature, Moore’s melodic poetry captured the Irish soul. Both men were storytellers of their nations, and their legacies remain embedded in cultural memory.

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Kath's talk was accompanied by music and songs by Ian Scott and the celebrated Scottish folk trio Chapter 4. Listen to the performance:

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